================================================ Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] Re: 'plan b' for disturbed video From: "Lee Reed" To: Date: Sat 31 Aug 2002 02:22:27 -0400 ================================================ haven't heard anything regarding tox reports...general discussion is he pulled a john bonham...as for disturbed, yeah i agree, they got the bitchslap from the higher ups... >From: "Debbi" >Reply-To: The New Improved Less Lame List >To: "'The New Improved Less Lame List'" >Subject: RE: [ Creed Discuss ] Re: 'plan b' for disturbed video >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:30:58 -0700 > >Record company and manager probably dope-slapped them and told them how >stupid (and expensive) it is to be so bloody principled. > >Btw, are the toxicology reports back on the DP singer? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lee Reed [mailto:creedyrn4ever@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:30 PM >To: creed-discuss@debbir.com >Subject: [ Creed Discuss ] Re: 'plan b' for disturbed video > > >so they're going to give in anyhow... >Lee > > > >they laugh at us because we're different...we laugh at them because > >they're > >all the same...***Drowning Pool*** > >be careful what you learn, sometimes knowing burns***Virgos Merlot*** > > > > > >Disturbed Video Deemed Too Disturbing; Band Examines Plan B 08.06.2002 > > > > > >Disturbed > >Photo: Steven Danelian > > > > > >In the biblical book of Job, God tests a man's devotion by plaguing him > >with an increasingly worsening set of afflictions. Disturbed frontman >David > >Draiman is starting to understand how Job must've felt. > > > >The singer, who was schooled in religion and philosophy, decided to > >write a > >video treatment for the band's new single, "Prayer," that was an >allegory > >referencing Job. In it, Disturbed are confronted with various >apocalyptic > >scenarios including collapsing construction sites, car crashes and a > >cataclysmic earthquake. They emerge from each disaster ready to take on >the > >next (see "Disturbed Conjure Fire, Earthquakes For 'Prayer' Video"). > > > >While Draiman insists the video, directed by the Brothers Strause last > >month, is a tale of triumph over adversity and a clear-cut reference to > > >Job, others have viewed the footage as too disturbing for even >Disturbed. > >Some video outlets have refused to play it because they feel the scenes >are > >too reminiscent of those of last September 11. > > > >Like Job, who faced calamity and moved on, Disturbed are making plans > >to > >create an alternate video for the song in time for the September >release of > >Believe. One option is to radically re-edit the original video, a > >spokesperson for the band said. But since the entire piece focuses on > >devastation and demolition, that might prove impossible. > > > >An alternative is to shoot a performance video for the track. Disturbed > >will shoot their August 7 show at Cleveland's Rock and Roll Hall of >Fame, > >and if the footage is good enough, it's likely that it will be used for >the > >video, the spokesperson said. > > > >While Believe was colored by the events of 9/11, the album isn't a > >reflection of life in times of war or a diatribe against terrorism. >It's > >more a summation of the way people can overcome personal tragedy and >trauma > >through personal conviction. > > > >"The underlying theme throughout the record is aspects of belief," > >Draiman > >said. "And believing in whatever you feel strongly about no matter what >the > >situation is. The world is a different place since we wrote the last > >record. Whether it's the events of 9/11 or our newfound success, the >way > >that we're perceived and the way that we perceive others now, >everything is > >different. And the realization of what we've become and the world >around us > >and the positive ends of it and the negative ends of it are really >where > >the lyrical content came from." > > > >Throughout Believe, Draiman addresses the brutality of the music biz, > >the > >emptiness of losing a loved one, the dismal state of contemporary pop >and > >the difficulty of sustaining a relationship on the road. While the >music is > >brooding and bludgeoning, it's not as bleak as that of the band's >debut, > >The Sickness. > > > >"It's not as dark, it's not as morbid, it's not as hopeless," agreed > >Draiman. "That's part of why the record is called Believe. To simply >put > >out another record like The Sickness at this particular point in time, >in > >terms of its meaning, I didn't think was conducive to the environment. >I > >think people need things to believe in and to channel their beliefs >into, > >and that's hopefully some of what I'm trying to illustrate here." > > > >Track list for Believe, according to Warner Bros.: > >"Prayer" > >"Liberate" > >"Awaken" > >"Believe" > >"Remember" > >"Intoxication" > >"Rise" > >"Mistress" > >"Breathe" > >"Bound" > >"Devour" > >"Darkness" > > > > > >-Jon Wiederhorn > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >visit: http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm >To submit your profile, visit: >http://www.creedlisters.com/profile/submit.asp >To view List member Profiles, visit: http://www.creedlisters.com > > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >visit: >http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm >To submit your profile, visit: >http://www.creedlisters.com/profile/submit.asp >To view List member Profiles, visit: >http://www.creedlisters.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm To submit your profile, visit: http://www.creedlisters.com/profile/submit.asp To view List member Profiles, visit: http://www.creedlisters.com